Could Mormons use fried chicken at sacrament just as water is used? Source - “It mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the sacrament, if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory” (D&C 27:2–3).

Ray Farmer

One morning on my mission in Italy, I noticed at the beginning of Sacrament meeting that the Sister who was assigned to bring the bread was not among us. I signaled to the elders at the table to check to see if there was bread under the cloth. One peaked under the cloth, put it back in place and with a poker face shook his head to the negative. The hymn began playing as my companion and I dashed to the streets looking for bread. The only place open was a bar (a different kind of place than a bar is in the US). All they had was some pieces of pizza. We bought them and ran back to the meeting place. We scraped off the cheese and sauce the best we could and supplied the table with the remaining crust. Just in time. Worked just fine.

In the army we used to use the crackers that came with the C rations when we were out in the field on Sunday.

I would not use chicken.

I don’t partake of the sacrament at church because they use water instead of wine. The Book of Mormon is very specific regarding the use of wine. The Lord even said that the ordinance would be used to see if we would faithfully follow the instructions.

3 Nephi 18

8. And it came to pass that when he said these words, he commanded his disciples that they should take of the wine of the cup and drink of it, and that they should also give unto the multitude that they might drink of it.
9. And it came to pass that they did so, and did drink of it and were filled; and they gave unto the multitude, and they did drink, and they were filled.
10. And when the disciples had done this, Jesus said unto them: Blessed are ye for this thing which ye have done, for this is fulfilling my commandments, and this doth witness unto the Father that ye are willing to do that which I have commanded you.

There is no excuse for substituting water for the wine. It is just another example of “changing the ordinance”.

Isaiah 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

I will go on to speculate. Disregard the following freely.

There seems to be health benefits in drinking wine generally. And yet there is danger of becoming a winebibber. So, what if the Lord worked it out where his people can get the benefits of wine by presenting it in limited portions in the ordinance?

Robert Hampton

Later revelation to Joseph Smith Jr D&C 27:2 – 3 “It mattereth not what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink when ye partake of the sacrament if it so be that ye do it with an eye single to my glory” Was the justification used by general authorities of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints including the first presidency and the quorum of the 12 apostles to change the practice from the use of wine the use of water. Remember ours is a church of ongoing revelation which allows the Lord to teach us line upon line and precept upon precept.

Ray Farmer

Yes, I know when they changed the ordinance. Just another step in the apostasy of the LDS organization.

The Book of Mormon was very specific regarding the wine. The instructions are plain and precious.

How is exchanging water for wine learning line upon line?

So what have we? Saints are partaking of water in the chapel but down the street in the Nauvoo Mansion, at the bar therein, they are serving wine with all the other alcoholic beverages?

Look at D&C 27

Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, that you shall not purchase wine neither strong drink of your enemies;Wherefore, you shall partake of none except it is made new among you; yea, in this my Father's kingdom which shall be built up on the earth.
Behold, this is wisdom in me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim;

First off, it says don’t buy wine from enemies, but make it yourself. With all the Deseret foods produced by the Church, they can’t raise grapes and make wine?

And then, this section boldly says Jesus will drink wine with Moroni who, in that last few chapters he wrote, instructed the use of wine. furthermore, that section specifically says that the Book of Mormon contains the fulness of the everlasting gospel. Something is really goofed up with your Living Oracles.

Moroni 10:27 And I exhort you to remember these things; for the time speedily cometh that ye shall know that I lie not, for ye shall see me at the bar of God; and the Lord God will say unto you: Did I not declare my words unto you, which were written by this man, like as one crying from the dead, yea, even as one speaking out of the dust?

The Lord declared that wine is to be used in the ordinance. “This Man”, Moroni, wrote it down.

What will you say? “Lord, I know what that man to whom you refer wrote, but there was this other man, Joseph Smith, who we valued more, who said ‘it doesn’t matter’”.

Good luck with that.