Apparently, you don’t know how email works. Email is not Quora. I sent you an email so we would have these long discussions on Quora. Email is direct communication. No interference from Quora moderators. Comments don’t get collapsed, lost, or deleted. My email address is at the bottom of my profile bio.
All of my answers are available on my profile page starting with the most recent. I just wrote to answers about the Old Testament that may interest you.
I don’t base my beliefs on the Church Fathers. I cite the Church Fathers where the confirm LDS doctrine like the fact that Jesus was the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. (3 Nephi 11:13-14; 3 Nephi 15:4-5) See
Michael Hickenbotham's answer to Why did people fail to see Jesus in the Old Testament?
Sorry if I mistook your last comments for sarcasm. Your 3 tools seemed sarcastic to me.
Block, Down Vote, report, ignore, attack messenger, disable comments.
Attack the Book of Mormon…. Living Oracles, once dead, can be cast in the same trash heap as the Book of Mormon! I finally understood!
Ignore any conundrum presented and just regurgitate the doctrine as it is in the day of the regurgitation and follow it with passionate testimony… If enough words are pasted, no one will read it. That’s the best.
An example of this is how you answered my initial comment about post-mormon agnosticism. You didn’t! You dismissed my comment as not relevant and ran with Degrees of Glory! You crack me up.
That all seems pretty sarcastic to me.
You: You seem to find the parable of the sower to be absolute proof that there are three degrees of glory.
Me: No, only that there is more than heaven and hell. There are degrees of glory, even in the Celestial Kingdom. That’s what the Doctrine and Covenants teaches. The 30, 60, and 100-fold are called “mysteries of the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 13:11) Mysteries are doctrines not previously taught per https://bible.org/seriespage/chapter-13-mysteries-kingdom
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You: I would be able to prove that there are 4 degrees using your logic.
Me: If you consider outer darkness a “reward”, there are 4. The Celestial Kingdom is divided into several levels as well. If I wanted to, I could name 5 right now and I suspect there are several more if Paradise and Spirit Prison are included (7). Three is the number of “degrees of glory” described in D&C 76 and 88, but most of us don’t include outer darkness as a reward nor do we divide the Celestial Kingdom exalted from the non-exalted.
My point is that an eternal heaven/hell dichotomy is not something a fair and loving God would create.
I don’t consider “beaten with few/many stripes” to be an appropriate explanation of the thirty-fold, sixty-fold and the hundredfold? It’s repeated twice in Matthew 13 (verses 8 and 23). Luke 8 seems obviously incomplete (a plain and precious part removed maybe?). I don’t consider the 30/60/100 to be works. The book of revelations mentions crowns. See:
https://www.quora.com/Will-there-possibly-be-people-in-heaven-who-did-not-receive-the-crown-of-righteousness/answer/Michael-Hickenbotham
Some Protestants count 5 types of crowns. See:
https://www.allaboutbible.com/five-crowns-in-the-bible/
I think they’re reading more into these crowns than is justified, but I find it interesting. 1 Corinthians 15 also compares our resurrected bodies to the sun, moon, and stars and Paul, while speaking of visions and revelation, tells of a man who was "caught up to the third heaven" (2 Cor. 12:2) or "paradise" and "heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for men to utter" (2 Cor. 12:4).
The very early Church Father, Papias [A.D. 160], who (according to the first-hand account of Polycarp)(Against Heresies, V.33:4) had it personally from John (Jean Danielou, The Theology of Jewish Christianity, p. 46), writes that "as the Elders say, Those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of Paradise, and others shall possess the splendor of the city [Rev. 22:14]; for everywhere the Savior will be seen, according as they shall be worthy who see him [Rev. 22:4].
The very early Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ opens with the admonition that the document is to come into the hands "only of proven saints who dwell in the third order (or level) next to the mansion of my Father who sent me" (Test. Dom. n. J. Christi, Rahmani, ed., I, xviii (p. 22f)) (Hugh Nibley, Since Cumorah, pp. 110-111).
There does seem to be a pattern in all of the above though. See Answer #75 in my book.
You are misinterpreting Ephesians 4:11–15. The apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers help perfect the Saints while maintaining “the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ". Those who are "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness". Those who lie in wait to deceive are false prophets and false Christs. Jesus said we will know them by their fruit. See:
Michael Hickenbotham's answer to What does Matthew 7:15 mean?
I list the fruit of modern apostles and prophets at:
https://www.quora.com/What-essentially-is-Mormonism-I-am-an-atheist-and-I-simply-cannot-garner-enough-faith-to-believe-in-any-supernatural-being-or-any-religion-whatsoever-However-it-must-be-said-that-LDS-members-are-the-nicest-gentlest/answer/Michael-Hickenbotham
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-LDS-Latter-Day-Saints-aka-Mormons-gospel-message/answer/Michael-Hickenbotham
You: But remember my observation above (somewhere in this thread) that we learned that the theology of the Book of Mormon is completely different and irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Living Oracles.
Me: See Jacob 6:8-9; Mosiah 8:15-17; 18:17-24; Alma 20:15; Helaman 9:2; 13:24-28, 32-33; 3 Nephi 8:25; 10:12, 14.
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